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Washington Redskins WR Pierre Garcon said he is very excited about the opportunity to join the Redskins. On his Facebook page, he thanked Indianapolis Colts fans "from the bottom of my heart."
The Chicago Bears have agreed to a deal where they would acquire WR Brandon Marshall from the Miami Dolphins in exchange for two third-round NFL Draft choices.
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Randy Moss also signed with the 49rs, I don't know about this one, but the Skins signing Garcon I think is going to be good. Garcon has the size and speed and is young. I think RG3 is going to have fun with both Garcon and Fred Davis.
The Washington Redskins are close to signing free-agent WR Joshua Morgan (49ers), yes buddy, here come the Skins mother fuckers!
The Washington Redskins have re-signed free-agent DE Adam Carriker to a four-year deal worth $20 million with $7 million in guaranteed money, yeah buddy! We needed to keep Adam Carriker, he has a non stop motor and i think this year will be huge for him
And of course the colts are stupid enough to not resign him.....hopefully. we keep Reggie Wayne
Yeep Reggie Wayne did stay :Originally Posted by Kn0ck3rSh0ck3r
What is he going to do in Indy? He is at the end of the road career wise, he should of signed with a competitive team that is ready to win now. I really feel bad for Reggie, he has been class act all his career, sure he won a SB already but he should have more.Updating a previous report, Indianapolis Colts WR Reggie Wayne will receive a $7.5 million signing bonus, and $13.5 million over the first two years of his deal. In total, he will receive three years and $17.5 million.
But this just shows the class that Reggie Wayne has, he stayed loyal to the team that drafted him and I give him props for that.
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Kn0ck3rSh0ck3r (March 14th, 2012)
I have liked Adam Carriker since his days at Nebraska. He plays at a high level all the time, he can rush the passer and is also good vs the run. The Skins did the right thing bringing him back and the price was just right in my opinion. Just look at how they drew up this contract, the Skins have always been inovators when it comes to contracts, way to go Snyder!Carriker’s deal worth $20 million over four years
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 11:43 PM EDT
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Now that several new contracts have been negotiated, we’re starting to get our hands on some of the official numbers.
On Tuesday, defensive end Adam Carriker re-signed a four-year deal with the Redskins. It has a base value of $20 million, with 3.7 million in fully guaranteed money and another $2 million that is guaranteed for injury only.
In 2012, Carriker receives a signing bonus in the amount of $3 million, a fully guaranteed base salary of $700,00, a $250,00 roster bonus, and a $50,000 workout bonus. In 2013, the base salary increases to $3.7 million ($2 million is guaranteed for injury only), with the same roster and workout bonuses. In 2014, the salary moves to $4.7 million, again with the same roster and workout bonuses. Ditto for 2015.
Finally, a $2 million option bonus comes due on the final day of the 2014 league year.
There’s a strange provision that allows Carriker to void the last three years of the deal by paying $1 million to the team during a 15-day window opening the day after Super Bowl XLVII. Though terms like that aren’t unprecedented, it’s hard not to wonder whether this is some creative way to manage the 2012 salary cap, given the sudden loss of $18 million in cap space.
Carriker, a first-round pick of the Rams in 2007, was traded to the Redskins in 2010.
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Chargers | Robert Meachem signs
Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:30:38 -0700
The San Diego Chargers agreed to a four-year deal with free-agent WR Robert Meachem (Saints) Tuesday, March 13. The deal is worth $25.9 million, with $14 million fully guaranteed.
Meachem will be asked to replace Vincent Jackson as a the team's deep threat, but you can't expect him to be a true No. 1. The Chargers spread the ball around so much that Meachem's reception total should be low (after all, Jackson never caught more than 68 passes in a single season with the Chargers). The offense may return to more of a ground-control emphasis, with Antonio Gates being the featured target in the passing game. Meachem can be considered a high-upside No. 4 or a slightly risky third fantasy receiver because of his issues with drops.
Carlos Rogers stays put in San Fran
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:43 PM EDT
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When cornerback Carlos Rogers finally became an unrestricted free agent in 2011, after being restricted in 2010 with five years of service, he signed a one-year deal in the hopes of getting another crack at a bigger payday in 2012.
He got one.
Per a league source, Rogers has agreed to terms on a four-year deal with a base value of $29.3 million. The contract can be worth as much as $31.3 million.
The overall package for Rogers, 31, is slightly above the contract signed in 2011 by Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor.
This is a good move on the 49rs part. Carlos Rogers has always been underrated even when he was in Washington. The 49rs allowed Carlos to play to his strengths an he had a killer year. Letting him go would of been a huge mistake by the 49rs, I really wish Carlos was still in Washington.
So what I want to know is are the Skins getting back their 36 million in cap space or not? The NFL is so full of shit here, they committed collusion:League, Redskins talked about salary cap controversy on Tuesday
Posted by Mike Florio on March 14, 2012, 4:08 AM EDT
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As the Redskins were rounding up a bunch of receivers on Tuesday (they landed Pierre Garçon and Josh Morgan, and they’re working on Eddie Royal), the team also was trying to plead its case with the league office regarding Monday’s decision to strip $36 million in cap space from the team for treating the “uncapped year” of 2010 too literally.
Per a league source, the Redskins engaged in a conference call with the league office regarding the situation.
And the conversation, we’re told, included the league conceding to G.M. Bruce Allen that the Redskins violated no rules and did nothing wrong. The league explained that the Redskins’ actions (and the Cowboys’) “affected competitive balance.”
As we’ve previously mentioned, both in print and during Tuesday’s PFT Live, what about the teams that opted to underspend in the year with no salary cap or salary floor? Those teams also necessarily affected competitive balance by choosing to be uncompetitive.
The bottom line is that every team could have done what the Cowboys and Redskins did. The notion that not every team had the cash flow to do it, which was advanced on Tuesday’s NFL Live by former Colts Vice Chairman Bill Polian, is more than a little misleading. The Cowboys, for example, opted to give receiver Miles Austin $17 million in 2010. The Cowboys characterized it as base salary and not as a signing bonus to limit the impact in future years under the cap. That’s not an issue of cash flow. And any team giving a player a signing bonus in 2010 could have used this tactic instead.
Besides, without a salary cap, teams with greater cash flow have the right to try to disrupt competitive balance by spending more money, even if it usually doesn’t work. (Indeed, the Cowboys and Redskins failed to get to the postseason in 2010 or 2011.) A cap is put in place to prevent the spend-to-win arms race, and the cap was removed in 2010 to give the owners an incentive to replace the CBA before risking that teams would try to buy a championship in the uncapped year.
What many in the media are missing is that this entire controversy proves the league engaged in collusion in 2010, and that the Redskins and Cowboys are suffering the consequences now for refusing two years ago to participate in a violation of the labor laws.
From what I have been reading Skins and Dallas wont be getting shit back and that is just a joke. This is what ESPN posted about this:Collusion is an agreement between two or more persons, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair advantage.
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Redskins fans will have to endure their team paying a $36 million penalty over the next two years.
The NFL should be ashamed of itself, but it’s not, because shame is not a concept with which the people who run the NFL are acquainted. The NFL is a corporate monolith so used to having things its own way, so safe from criticism from the people who cover it, watch it on TV and unthinkingly pay small fortunes to attend its games in person that it quite literally believes it can make up its own rules and get away with it.
The news Monday that the league is docking the Washington Redskins $36 million and the Dallas Cowboys $10 million against the salary cap over the next two years (and spreading that extra cap room out among 28 other teams) isn’t likely to upset anyone other than those two teams and their fans. That’s how the NFL works. No one cares too much as long as their team wins, their fantasy team does well and the games are on TV every Sunday at 1 p.m. This issue, and likely this column, will be forgotten in a few hours when the “free-agency frenzy” the league is selling as this month’s offseason goodie bag kicks into high gear and everybody starts obsessing over which players their teams did or didn’t get -- just the way the league likes it.
Those ends, the NFL apparently believes, justify all means. Because what the NFL has done in this salary-cap case is a despicable abuse of the power handed to it by flocks of fans who happily fund it while wearing blinders.
If what the NFL did in 2010 was secretly tell its teams not to overspend in an uncapped year, then it engaged in an act that's illegal in any other industry. If that’s what happened, it’s collusion, plain and simple. It’s a bunch of businessmen who operate all of the businesses in a given industry getting together to limit the earning potential of the workers in that industry. Anyone with even the most basic understanding of labor law would classify that as collusion.
Two teams apparently declined to engage in this activity, even under threat of penalty from the league overseers. (Actually almost every team did what the Redskins and Cowboys did. Those two teams just did it more, and to an extent that upset the other owners.) Obviously, the Redskins and Cowboys didn’t do this to make a moral stand. They did it because they were trying to gain a competitive advantage over the other teams. But this was an uncapped year -- a year in which the richer teams theoretically should have been able to obtain a competitive advantage. If the league was telling teams to limit their spending in an uncapped year and the Redskins and Cowboys defied them, then what the Redskins and Cowboys did was technically legal and what the league was doing was not.
But that doesn’t matter to the NFL, which defines collusion very specifically under the collective bargaining agreement so as to protect itself and, as usual, operates by its own laws. After the story broke Monday, the league released a statement that said, “The Management Council Executive Committee determined that the contract practices of a small number of clubs during the 2010 league year created an unacceptable risk to future competitive balance, particularly in light of the relatively modest salary cap growth projected for the new agreement's early years.”
The statement goes on to say that the settlement, which resulted in the punishments for Dallas and Washington, was agreed upon by the parties in the collective bargaining agreement, which it was. The NFLPA agreed not to pursue collusion charges against the league in exchange for the league agreeing (a) not to cut the 2012 salary cap and (b) to spread the Redskins’ and Cowboys’ penalty money among the other teams so that the total amount of cap space league-wide would not be reduced.
Effectively, the league found a way to excuse itself for engaging in an illegal act and got the players to sign off on it. The only people who are suffering are the teams that decided, two years ago, not to go along with the illegal plan by which the league was ordering its teams to abide. The whole thing reeks of witch-hunt impropriety, from the fact that teams (such as Jacksonville and Tampa Bay) that drastically underspent that season because there was no salary floor aren’t being punished for the impact that had on competitive balance to the troublesome fact that the chairman of the aforementioned NFL Management Council is the owner of the Giants, who play in the same division as the two teams being docked.
The NFL should be embarrassed by this whole situation, but it isn’t, and won’t be. It never is. It does what it wants to do when it wants to do it, and it finds a way to excuse it after the fact. It is the epitome of modern corporate greed and arrogance. The big-money ends always justify the means, and we’re all complicit, continuing to feed the beast because it entertains us.
You may not care about this issue if you’re not a fan of the Cowboys or the Redskins. But if you think the league wouldn’t do the same kind of thing to your team, legal or not, fair or not, and find a way to get away with it as long as it suited its purposes, you’re kidding yourself. The NFL doesn’t care about you. It cares about itself. It cares about getting its way, no matter what. Sooner or later, fans of every team will find this out.
What a crock of shit!
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