Well Goodbye Fellas

[breaksk81]

o i understand if you go by the rank structure then i should be way higer but im not no big deal ill get there also like i said celtic you were just promoted twice but going about this like how you did isnt going to do anything but piss off people like your doing there is private messages for a reason

[DEF4LT515]

Well with all due respect I didn't ask you to say anything and I never once said I was the best or god giving talent to CAG! Also I didn't lash out at you or piss! CheechDogg himself said we have the right to express ourselves and that's all I did


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by making this post celtic you did, my job is to make sure Battlefield is running smoothly. If you dont want me to post on a public CAG forum then why make it at all? From what i have heard you went to Kuj. first which was good, but instead of waiting you make this thread and just disregard everything anyone says. I strongly suggest you take a breath and relax for awhile celtic, because what you say from here on out will determine your future here with CAG.

[CelticSaint]

I'm lost now lol your first statement you said you don't have to say anything, that's why I said with all do respect I didn't ask you too lol I get what your saying though


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[CAG RAZ]

I shouldn't have to ask why they picked who they did, because it obvious! I was told I would be a great leader but all of sudden they chose who chose, my dedication and hard work isn't respected here and I would have rather been slapped in the face than stabbed in the back!!

Thanks CelticSaint



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I was a dedicated member to CAG for 7 months without promotion and still am I helped rebuild BF side of CAG in this time and still no promotion, I waited it out and look at me now.

I understand where you are coming from but you should just stick at it it will come, breaks was going to leave for the same reason but we talked and he stayed, he plodded on and work very hard then he got his great promotion.

And if you do leave you will regret it, no matter what you will always want to come back to CAG me and blameit know this well.


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[pisspawz]

Yes you can express your self.. But to quit over something so small?? Well if this is how feel then that's your choice


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[CelticSaint]

Yes you can express your self.. But to quit over something so small?? Well if this is how feel then that's your choice


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Piss I appreciate you letting me know how you feel and staying on here to work this out that makes you an awesome leader fella, but it's not the promotion bugging me it's the rules and requirements that's all I bent out of shape about you know!! That's all I'm getting at CAG has rules and requirements for a reason if we had no rules we would be like every other so called clan out there! I understand were your coming from I just want everyone else to understand where I'm coming from


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[CAG ToxicBob]

Why bother putting in any work if your going to give up and walk the first time you don't like what you see I've been here for ten years or more I stopped counting long ago but I've seen people come and go because they didn't get what they want I didn't get any kind of promotion for like 5 or 6 years and I've never once asked for one it's not about anybodies rank it's about having good people to game with


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[CAG RAZ]

Why bother putting in any work if your going to give up and walk the first time you don't like what you see I've been here for ten years or more I stopped counting long ago but I've seen people come and go because they didn't get what they want I didn't get any kind of promotion for like 5 or 6 years and I've never once asked for one it's not about anybodies rank it's about having good people to game with


Crying after Blame's magical tip touch

True that.


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[andopro]

Hey guys, I know this doesn't really pertain to myself, because I'm not 100% CAG Official. But, I have been a leader for the past 5-6 years and unfortunately I've seen this sort of thing multiple times. Eventually, we had to design a system that satisfies to entire community. From what I read, I can understand both sides of the party.

Celtic, you've put in hard work and time that no-one can take away from you & feeling cheated or passed by when positions open feels downgrading. That is completely understandable, you wouldn't be human if you didn't or I would judge your humanity. But, like said before, why throw away everything you put forth? Do you think the members of CAG deserve your services for practically free? Because, in my opinion, that is what's happening. What's going to happen, a spot is going to open in a few days, weeks, month, and the only person that seems to fit will be you, but if you aren't here, then they will have to choose Joe Blow for that spot and you miss out. Thats my opinion on your situation.

Moving to the other party, I believe you need to understand exactly how Celtic feels, and I'm not completely sure you guys do. The man is practically heart-broken because you would choose someone over him for whatever the reasons are. I don't know them, so I won't dwell on that much. Try to sympathize with him and completely understand where he is sitting, because ultimately you aren't there with him, and the easy decision is to blow it off and move on, but is it worth losing a respectable, honorable, and dedicated member like Celtic, because as far CAG forums go. He is just as active as anyone else I see here.

Now, lastly, I would like to suggest something about the promotion system. Because like I said, I've been through this before and this may be some helpful tips to solve this type of issue in the future. Leaving promotion in the palm of Leaders (Squad Leaders, etc.) creates a barrier. What it results in is the fact that people favor other people. For example, lets say D4rky's play time is from 5pm-9pm, and Kujeaux is on that same schedule. Well, because Celtic may not be on that schedule, D4rky and Kujeaux bond and develop a stronger relationship than D4rky and Celtic. Considering, D4rky is put in the position to promote for Fireteam Leaders (Or whatever), D4rky chooses Kujeaux because he feels closer to him. It may not seem that way to the leader promoting, but it happens subconsciously.

How to Fix?
Install and Leadership Vote system. Allow all the members in that division or game to cast a vote via the forums. Lets say you need 3 leaders, ask your poll question.

Who should lead you in your BF4 Fireteam?

• Member A
• Member B
• Member C
• Member D
• Member E

Whoever qualifies should be placed in the poll. That way everyone feels that have had a fair shot at the position. Then let the members speak, and your top voted members receive the Leader spots.

Obviously, this does not in anyway have to be install into CAG. It was just a simple solution to the same problems at XeC. I hope you guys work it out, I don't want to see good members go.


Thanks,
Andopro

[CelticSaint]

Why bother putting in any work if your going to give up and walk the first time you don't like what you see I've been here for ten years or more I stopped counting long ago but I've seen people come and go because they didn't get what they want I didn't get any kind of promotion for like 5 or 6 years and I've never once asked for one it's not about anybodies rank it's about having good people to game with


Crying after Blame's magical tip touch

Bob fella I'm not giving up because I didn't get promoted! I'm a big rule follower if there were no rules there would be chaos! I'm disappointed in the rules and requirements, the rules and requirements are here to create opportunity and achievements! That's all I'm getting at that no one here has met the requirements of a fire team or squad leader except blameitongod, so with that it makes me feel like the requirements are pointless now if we're not to follow them! I don't know if anyone is getting what I'm saying at all

This is an example to show how I feel:: ok game is tied and we need to hold a position in order to win right, now the enemy throw a grenade between all of us and the leader says Celtic jump on the grenade I do it because it's Alan order and without them there would be chaos!! So I jump on it and only I die and position I secure for the win and the rest of the guys have relief knowing there country is safe now!! On the other hand leader says Celtic jump on that grenade I say fuck that like a coward and run for my safety, and now the enemy has taken our country do to my selfishness and now I have no home!! That's an example of why I think rules and requirements should be followed no matter how small the difference is!! I hope you all read this and see where I'm coming from


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