actually the biggest you should go dermal punching if you are going to stretch is 14. only because punching takes out skin that could be used later to keep your lobes thick. ive been stretching and going smaller for about 3 months now. by stretching to lets say an inch letting them heal then taking your plugs out it actually thickens up your lobe so that at bigger sizes you dont have thin ass lobes. im not sure when im going to actually stop stretching. my original goal was 3/4 then i went to 1" and now im in the process of going to 1 1/4. im actually leaving in a minute to go pick up some more plugs/tunnels. im hoping to find solid white plugs. they are my favorite. after im back ill take a picture of my plug collection. its quite intense. i could have bought a ps3 with how much money ive spent. haha