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Well...I thought I'd play some...no one on so I thought I'd try unlocking some sniper kit.
Wow.
I seriously suck at being sniper. Need some mentoring on that shit. Gonna look on YouTube for some hints and advice etc...but any CAG with pointers will be gratefully received.
In the meantime, I'm done with bf4 for tonight...now my skill has been reduced by rather a lot. The mood is dark...but tomorrow is a new day.
Pffft.
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talk to Raz. he was the MLG PRO sniper in BF3. probably still is in 4.
im decent at sniping also
Haha thanks grits, and yeah we will have to get together sometime angel I'll show you some stuff :)
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raz is the guy to go to for sniper training same with eagle or ghostj.
Okay great...thanks. Was rather disheartening having all those negative rounds just persisting with the sniper rifles trying to unlock schtuff.
Raz...Eagle...if you guys would be kind enough to share some wisdom / knowledge / advice...that'd be cool.
Thanks.
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I got a friend that is top 5 in sniping in the the world on bf4 syko sniper
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dont worry arch, you'll get use to it. it took me a while to get better at sniper. just keep playing the class and you will get it.
plus you'll get tips from the recon guys here.
or you can stay assault and keep reviving me. hahaha
btw...no headphones yet. been busy at work.
i ordered some. on the way.
Thanks for the encouragement dude. I prefer the other classes for sure but will persevere ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by kenpachi
Nice one on the cans too...be good to have you on comms!
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Are you trying to unlock sniper rifle attachments or recon kit unlocks?
I want to unlock the rifles...I did unlock DMRs last night but it's the rifles I want to play with.
I managed a 486m headshot with my silenced CS-LR4, which I was very happy with, considering the calculation I had to make (failed to notice I could zero the scope at this point) ...but yeah, I'm no good at the moment...and certainly not of much use in direct combat with a bolt action.
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I'm the same buddy.when it comes to recon I suck big time.only way I unlocked the kit was to run recon with a carbine or pdw.when it comes to the rifles themselves I use the scout at the min and I would like to unlock the rest as well as the dmrs as well.any pointers that all u guys can share would be much appreciated as well
Yeah, you're gonna have to use a sniper rifle to unlock more sniper rifles (unlike BF3). BF4 was my first legitimate attempt at using sniper rifles, so I feel as many of you do. Personally, I stayed with the starter sniper, CS-blahblah, until I unlocked the SRR. The SRR has the fastest bullet speed and least bullet drop (I think) which, IMO, makes it the easiest to use, but it's the last unlock.
My best advice for sniper rifles would be to stick with a gun and setup. Get comfortable with one setup and unlock the rifles that way as different guns and scopes have different bullet drops and speeds, which affect how you aim high for bullet drop and how much you lead a running target.
I also had a lot of success playing Rush with sniper rifles. The enemies will mostly be in front of you and not coming up from behind.
Best way is to keep using the class that's how I got better.
And I recommend using the 8x scope no matter the distance as you only have to move your rifle some millimeters when aimed depending on your range to achieve a guaranteed hit.
Anything bigger than 8x is bad because you will have to do a lot more scope work as you are zoomed in more and it's very difficult.
Also use the flags this makes it much easier to zero your scope.
Go in to a game and get exactly 200 meter from a objective flag DONT zero your scope as you need to find where the bullet will drop, keep aiming higher and higher until the bullet you fire will go straight toward the flag then you know that that mark on the scope is exactly 200 meter then do this for 300, 400 ext ext
You may say " well I can just zero my scope" true true but if there is nothing you can use as a range finder this is a very good way of getting used to ranges with out using a range finder.
Also always have your scope zeroed to 200 meter (when not shooting far) even if your 100-150 meter away aim at the neck you are guaranteed a headshot or a hit win win you will never miss the target this way.
The PLD binoculars also have a range finder this is a very good tool when just starting out.
Hope this helped I know it sounds a little confusing but this is the simplest way to tell you sniping is very hard when just starting and you won't be amazing in a month it takes time. It takes a few shots to get the correct range even for the best of us.
Now get out and get sniping ;)
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DMRs ... Angled grip ... and probably the Heavy Barrel as it seems to drop people in fewer shots. Use it at medium range, you don't want to be up close fighting Assaults, PDWs, Shotguns. Hmmm, I kind of use it like I would an LMG (keep your distance if you can).
Thanks for the tips fellas and thanks for taking the time too...very much appreciated. :-)
I've read that the Scout Elite is quite a beastly little rifle...that's the second unlock so a little way to go for that. I will use DMRs at some point...they're not included in C. I. B...is this due to sniper rifles?
I'm akso trying to find areas on each map to remain in place and just wait for targets...but this feels so alien.
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It's due to BF3 not having a DMR category, as they were grouped with snipers. I don't know if they count for C.I.B.Quote:
Originally Posted by ll Archangel li
IIRC, the Scout Elite has a high damage output but a lot of bullet drop.
Okay...thanks Kuj.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kujeaux
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i was watching one of LevelCap's vids and Matimio was using the Scout Elite and they were joking about it being the worst. i like the M40A5 personally. i'll use that until i get the SRR61.
Kuj DMI can be used as sniper riffle for the CIB process I'm pretty sure you can get a snipe ribbon from DMI
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There's a DMR specific ribbon ... perhaps some other sniper like ribbon, like Marksman (250m headshot).
One of my recent DMR rounds ...
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4...472/306372395/
so many great tips, funny i did the same as you were all saying. just takes time to adjust. Some recon like being in a couple spots. i keep moving( dont want a tag collecter getting me)
I agree Rush is the best game mode for sniping as you can watch the objectives and there are only 2. There are usually other snipers to have battles with as well.
A good tip for starters is always try to miss ahead of the target if he is on the move. It is easy to miss behind and this is likely where you will miss most of your shots.
If you do find yourself in a closer quarters situation I often get one shot on with the rifle then switch to your pistol to finish him off with one or two shots.
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Thanks for the info pawz.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAG pisspawz
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As far as "sniping" in general goes the whole game style itself is more defensive obviously. I could guarantee that the biggest problem with trying to figure it out is always getting sniped yourself from god knows where. That's being said one key point id like to make is to know your surroundings through and through. Second, your PLD is your best friend. It takes somewhere like 120-150 kills or something like that on a single rifle to get range finder, and even then it's slit tougher to spot out a soldier running 300+ meters away or another sniper clean across the map without using that PLD. Honestly a lot of your time is spent around the PLD if you're legitimately sniping from distances otherwise unseen by other players. Plus it gives you your range in the middle while using it. For me basic routine is, if I'm sniping by myself, post up-scan the area-sight the target and distance-take the kill. If you're having slit of trouble with other snipers find a temporary spot, post up there and bide your time, then head back and catch em by surprise. There's a lot of variables but honestly once you get the hang of the motions it really flows into some no joke constant MVP matches bro.
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Thanks for your insight W3st...appreciated.
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Well...I played some games with kenpachi tonight...I had one good round and lost connection before it finished.
Pissed is not the word.
I think I might have to just suck it up and concede that I simply don't snipe...
Thanks for putting up with my misery Ken lol!
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Played a few conquest last night with ch3dz and ken then ch3dz went of so I switched to recon with the m40a5 I think it is as there was only the 2 of us on.i took what raz said and used the 8x scope and hey massive improvement to my sniping.distance seems that much easier calculated with the 8x scope.
just wanna say thanks to ken for running alongside me on the conquest maps and resupplying me with that all important ammo and covering my 6 even though he ain't got a working mic yet.
sorry angel last few nights iv been knocking of around the 10pm mark as sleep and work has caught up with me just a tad.keep doing what ur doing though with hitting games with ur CAG bretheren.
there used to be charts out there for BF3 with what each mil dot represented in meters for the popular guns 8x scopes. if i come across one for BF4 i'll share it.
No worries John, I know you do early hours. It's always a pleasure playing with my new CAG family.
Good games Ken...sorry for my negativity dude. I'll be back to normal for next time :-)
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Oh and I never said thanks for saving my ass when that dude was trying to stab me in the back on Paracel Storm...good shit that was!
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before i get into the experiment, i have noticed that if your moving when you fire your bullet misses by what might as well be a mile so try to stand still as you take the shot. the strafe shooting really isn't an option now.
with that in mind, i did some experimenting on Rush this morning with my M40A5. i ran the 8x scope, variable zoom and straight pull bolt along with the PLD not so much for ranging but for acquiring targets which i will explain.
what i tried to do is when our team was attacking i got to a range where the the farthest MCOM was about 200-220 meters away. i would try to find a nice spot with a pretty clear view of everything. i tried to make sure i was about level with the second floor of buildings. i doped the scope for 200M and fired away. when i couldn't find a target i used my PLD as looking around with scope causes glint and gives your position away. i had some success, 8-1. our team got stopped on the second set of MCOM's otherwise i might have done better. at least 6 of the 8 were headshots, might have been 7. give this a try and see what happens. it worked for me but in the same sense it won't work for everyone.
Thank you for taking the time to write Blame...my biggest issue is not being on the front line and need to discipline myself.
I will give it more time...last night's heavy death count could have been easily avoided.
I will try these tactics when I'm on next. Thanks.
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yeah man no problem, let me know how it goes.
arch, no problems dood, it was fun. im glad i saw that guy try to stab you, i thought i was too late haha.
oh and heavy death count it was!!!!!!!!!! geesh the last maps on operation locker was crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good stuff for sure.
john no problems sir!! even with out a mic( it would be better) its better to stick to your squadmates.
as for sniping, i also like the 8x scope. feels better. i def can not use the russian scopes.